lesbianseparatist:

Lesbian Lists, Dell Richards. 1990.

Not sure how accurate this is 

(pre-script: everyone is cis to religious people)

sketchheart:

PUT SOME CLOTHES ON! Why do many women dress slutty and then wonder why men stare at, cheat, harass, and degrade them? The Bible teaches women to be modest and fear God. That a capable woman is more precious than jewels. Why then do so many girls dumb themselves down and act so helpless and lost like it’s the cool thing to do? I would never settle for anything less than a Proverbs 31 woman. Neither would any man worth having. 

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What a horrible person you are. 

Women can wear as many or as few clothes as they desire, and they will never deserve to be harassed. 

Nice job of exploiting women’s fear of assault to spread your idiotic ideals about dress. And the excusing your own misogyny and evil is pretty sweet too. I’m sure god fuckin’ loves you for that. 

If you ever harass a woman and think in your mind that it’s okay because of the way she’s dressed, I will personally find you and skin you alive. 

Honestly, people think atheists go to hell? Nope. No way. If there’s a hell, Christians will be there. They’re the evil ones.

pagannews:

I thought the first episode of Divine Women - a BBC documentary about goddesses - was very good indeed and worth watching if you are a pagan or interested in history. It was on BBC 2 yesterday at 9pm, but you can still watch it on BBC iPlayer. In the first episode, called Divine Women - When God Was a Girl, historian Bettany Hughes looked at the world’s most ancient civilisations and found that rather than worshipping male gods, most worshipped goddesses or at least revered women. Bettany argued that these fertility goddesses were often supplanted by male gods of battle as society became more warlike. This is quite a controversial subject, but I thought it was handled extremely well in the documentary.

Read more at A Bad Witch’s Blog

pagannews:

When I tell people I’m Hindu, one of the first reactions is sympathy. Because I’m not just Hindu, I’m a Hindu woman. It’s assumed that this is a difficult thing to be. Honestly, sometimes it is. Hinduism comes with considerable gender baggage (what doesn’t?). Yes, a lot of Hindu women are discriminated against and oppressed. Don’t make the mistake of thinking that that means we are subservient.

When I sat down to write about Hindu women who inspire me, I first thought of my cultural ancestors: women whose lives shine through the avalanche of male-oriented history, who not only overcame trials in their lifetime, but the challenge of being remembered centuries later. While heritage is important, I also included Hindu women that I encounter through the news, my community and daily life. My contemporaries: women who live and strive in the world in which I live and strive, but do it with assertiveness, verve and grace to which I can only aspire.

Gargi (dates unknown): Philosopher, Public Speaker, Royal Advisor
When we think of sages who wrote the Hindu scriptures, we picture men. While most priest-philosophers of ancient India were men, there were a number of extraordinary women among them. Gargi was one of the composers of the Upanishads. Her philosophy-poetry addresses metaphysical questions about the construction and origin of the universe. She is best known for a public debate in which she silenced (and irritated) a renowned sage by posing an unanswerable question, which can be simplified into: “Where is the realm of the Gods located?” You can read one interpretation of their complicated debate here. Gargi was also said to be an advisor in the Court of King Janaka; today a prestigious Women’s college of University of Delhi is named after her.

Gargi reminds me of the long history of women’s intellectual contributions. She inspires me to think critically and to keep asking questions even when it annoys people.

Read more at the Huffington Post

ferretdokhtar:

I think that one of the issues that used to plague me the most about opposition to homosexuality in Christianity, and gay marriage was that I saw “love as love”, regardless of the genders involved. When people would bring up other examples like pedophilia, adultery, or other dynamics where those involved may feel “love” regardless of the fact that it was indisputably immoral, I would not buy that. I would not buy it because I identified OTHER issues that made this dynamic immoral, such as inability to consent or the offense to a third-party member. I could not find anything that I identified as immoral in a consenting monogamous homosexual relationship.

While attending a small conservative high school, I would get in arguments with people over this issue often. I hate conflict, but when something flies in the fact of one of my values I become uncharacteristically determined to make my point (classic INFP). And the truth is, I ended up changing a lot of people’s mind. My class become known as “the one to never bring up homosexuality around, because all the girls would go into attack mode”. Every time it came up in a class setting, the teacher would preface it with “I know you guys are gonna give me a lot of slack for this, but..”. And this was because of me. And honestly, I didn’t feel guilty about it. I felt like I was doing them a favor, setting them free from their archaic biases. I would watch pro-homosexual documentaries about this issue on my weekends (I’ve seen them all). I was well aware that the bible had those hand full of verses against homosexuality, but I would just tell myself (without accepting it truly) that they were incorrectly interpreted. I read up on gay-revisionist interpretation of the bible, and it seemed to give me enough room to believe that the way I chose to believe was okay. Really,I was just searching out a interpretation that fit my own homosexual identity I had felt since in differing capacities childhood. Now I don’t want to blab on about myself, but I wanted to make it clear why this is important to me. I still struggle with this, and I know how hard it can be. But I believe that the truth is what empowers us. So I wanted to take a different stance, without using any of the verses that talk against homosexuality that Christians tend to us. Instead, I want to emphasis why I believe that gender is something God takes more seriously than I did. Which is why I believe God does not permit or bless same-sex marriages or relationships. 

 I now realize the reason why I didn’t see what was possibly wrong with homosexuality, is that I did not realize how important gender is to God.

Oh. Great. We’re flattered.

A man or a man, a woman or a woman, a woman or a man. I saw it all as the same, and I couldn’t fathom why it would matter. And this, I know realize, is because I saw gender as arbitrary in a relationship.

Maybe because it is. 

HOLY SHIT. You mean… people… love each other… for reasons other than being a man/woman couple?!

WHAT IS THIS WITCHERY

I saw it as a mere physical attribute

Oh right, religious people, males are men and females are women.

I wonder what people who are intersex are. Non-existent? Results of demonic possession or dark magick? More scientists trying to fool faithful Christians?

that was not reflected on who a person was ordained to be. I saw it as a nearly “earthly” physical label and not a God-valued one.

I wonder why. 

And I therefore wrongly assumed, it must be arbitrary to God as well.

Are you kidding me?! Gender was one of the strongest ways that god determined whether he was going to make someone’s life miserable or not.

God does fuckin’ care about gender.

The first thing I did wrong was assume that my culturally influenced, limited, human, judgement was somehow automatically the same as a holy God. So please, if your objections are centered around why YOU think that gender shouldn’t matter, IF you are a Christian just stop yourself right there.

Stop being logical, you heretic.

It is hard, I know from experience. In fact, it probably is only possible when the holy spirit penetrates the veil around our minds.

Now isn’t that fucking convenient.

So if you feel so inclined, say a prayer.

Tempted towards treating people equally? Better go to confession, sinner.

One of the arguments from pro-homosexual Christians is that sexual orientation (preference for said gender) was not a reality in biblical times.

That argument sucks, but so does yours, so.

So when they talk about a man and a woman being the standard for marriage, they assert that is is not a prescriptive model, but just a sign of the times the bible was written in. So yes, they say man and women because that is what was normal back then, but that doesn’t mean it is limited to that. Can I ask you where on earth you think you have the ability to assume this? There is not one sign the bible offers that even alludes to the idea that God finds gender to be a unimportant variable in relationships.

As illogical as their argument is, you’ve completely missed the flaw in it and gone in an irrelevant direction. 

Damn. Religious people will surprise ya at every turn!

Do not get hung up on semantics, actually think about it.

But if you find yourself actually thinking, better say a prayer.

Now yes, the culture today would sure say so, that gender in a relationship is just like race, or even hair color.

Even hair color?!

But I actually am trying to make the argument that the bible goes COMPLETELY against that.

That and shellfish. But as you were saying

And says that gender and gender dynamic in a relationship is something that God finds immeasurably important to your identity, relationships, and obedience to him. 

What about hair color? Even hair color?

The bible does not give us room to pick and chose our own rules for a marriage.

Yep! If you’re a woman and you get married, better be ready to be barefoot + pregnant. The bible doesn’t give you room to pick and choose.

If we do not want to partake in the marriage covenant, the only other option is complete celibacy.

Or… marrying anyways? Or not marrying and just fucking? 

You realize that the rules of your 4,000 year old god aren’t really followed anymore, you know.

Which is a wonderfully viable option.

Congratulations!

You’re either among the 1% of asexuals on the earth, or you’re so full of internalized misogyny that you’ve hated your sexuality out of existence.

Either way, cool beans.

Why is that? Because marriage is a covenant. God is serious about covenants,

That’s why he made a new one once the Jews started losing in battles.

do you know why? Because our relationship with God is a covenant. It is entering into a sacred agreement that binds two together forever.

That sounds like fun. 

Good thing today we have the legal system, which allows both parties to terminate a contract. And other shit too.

I believe that it is a intricate truth that a marriage covenant is intrinsically based off the fact that a man and a woman come together.

You forgot the barefoot, beaten, and pregnant part. 

You may question this, but I do not believe that anyone can in good conscience prove that the bible’s emphasis on gender is just cultural.

Well I do not believe that anyone with any conscience can accept the bible, especially its view on gender.

Listen to what Jesus has to say-

How about no

blah blah blah jesus blah blah

this sentiment is repeated here-

Malachi 2:14-16 

blah blah blah

Do you see the emphasis on the creation of the two genders and them coming together, and never separating?

Have you read the fuckin’ bible? The Old Testament is a masterpiece of racial supremacy. Why don’t you talk to us about that?

Do you think JESUS did that on accident?  

Do you think Jesus left behind no outside historical account of his existence on accident?

There is a reason why Jesus hates divorce, and that is because the

early Christians wanted him to

idea of ending a covenant is a degradation to the principle of God being in a covenant with us.

And the idea of bringing women into domestic slavery is a degradation of human rights and basic rules of sentience, but I don’t hear you going off about that.

What God brings together, let no man separate.

Key word MAN. Obviously, the QUEERS were designed to fix this shit.

God has brought the two genders together since the beginning. He made woman for man.

Wait

Are you telling me…

That this religion, ruled by men, has a holy book, written by men, in which men do everything important- 

and by some BIZARRE COINCIDENCE it has men being the greatest thing ever, even before sliced bread?

Ain’t that some shit.

You do know that God could have easily fashioned reproduction to be between a man and a man, right?

You do know that god could have easily fashioned human love to be a phenomenon of sacrifice, devotion, trust, and delight in one another without requiring mindless reproduction?

Oh wait. God hates women. Fuck! Yall need to remind me of this shit.

We are talking about the maker of design, the DESIGNER, not the person who is subject to play a long with it’s rules. Do you think design is arbitrary?

Well sometimes I wonder why people exist who can’t reproduce, but then I remember that there is no “designer” of the universe.

I can understand sin infecting the design which makes physical realities imperfect, but can we really in our own knowledge fashion something better than what GOD himself INTENDED? This is the garden of Eden we are talking about. This runs through the scripture, this idea of the two different genders coming together in holy matrimony.

Yep! Traditional marriage: A rapist and his victim. Wait, no, a bloodthirsty warlord and twenty rape victims he keeps captive. Wait. No. Give me a sec.

And a possibility for an alternative is never given.

Yeah like Solomon

and 

uh

David

and 

like every OT dude that existed, who slept with more women than Jiz Lee.

In fact, it also runs through biology, a man and a woman PHYSICALLY come together and become ONE.

Actually “men” and “women” don’t exist in biology. You have persons who produce sperm and persons who produce ova, as well as persons who produce neither.

Time and time again the idea of a man leaving his family and going to his wife is in the bible.

And his wife and his wife and his wife and his wife

And I think it is because there is something intrinsic about the dynamic of these two DIFFERENT genders coming together, that is reflected on our covenant with God, and Christ’s covenant with the church, and even the Father’s relationship to the son.

You mean an angry male chauvinist who demands thousands of women sacrificing their intellects and lives to him when he gives them no fidelity in return?

Yeah, I can see the reflection.

And the bible seems to agree with this too.

Sweetheart, the bible also says that the mustard seed is the smallest seed in the earth. I don’t think we need to be taking it so literally?

God made man and women, two people who are completely different, to come together for a reason. 

So completely different!

In that

uh

well

Men ALWAYS are

um

what are they anyways?

Are men always aggressive, logical, blah, blah? And women always passive, idiotic, etc? 

No… so… what could it be…

I know! Women always have XX chromosomes.

Shit. Wait. No. 

So tell me. What do men have and women have that makes them completely and consistently different?

please pay careful attention to this-

I will never stray

²¹ Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ.

 ²² Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. ²³ For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. ²⁴ Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.

 ”²⁵ Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her²⁶ to make her holy, cleansing^[b] her by the washing with water through the word, ²⁷ and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. ²⁸ In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. ²⁹ After all, no one ever hated their own body, but they feed and care for their body, just as Christ does the church— ³⁰ for we are members of his body. ³¹ “For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.”^[c] 32 This is a profound mystery—but I am talking about Christ and the church. ³³ However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.”

Fuck that. This is all bullshit. 

There is NO consistent difference between men and women. NONE. 

Your god is full of shit, and so are you. Open up a goddamn wikipedia page for christ’s sake. 

And you know what? If there’s NO consistent difference between men and women, there’s NOTHING about them that makes it so necessary that they form relationships with one another. 

Throw that in your strap on and suck on it. 

Sheesh. Wall of fuckin’ text and least you could do is have it make sense.

The Unfriendly Atheist’s 10 tips for single women would be somewhere along the lines of:

1. Tip your server.
2. Don’t eat the yellow snow.
3. Use protection.
4. Watch out for cops on I-10.
5. Don’t buy anything you can torrent.
6. Go to a professional tattoo shop.
7. It’s 2012. Use Gmail, not Yahoo.
8. If it tastes good, eat it.
9. As long as it’s gay, it’s okay. And if it ain’t straight, it’s great.
10. Stock up on booze before you go to a dry county. Actually, just stock up on booze.

This person, however, seems to have a slightly different perspective on life. 

While I am content to view single women as being members of the human population, OP thinks that the qualities of “single” and “woman” automatically disqualify one into such a category. Instead, yall are now “potential incubators” (everyone is cis-straight in religion, don’t forget). 

Here is their top 10 list:

1. Develop an intimate relationship with God. You cannot enter into a successful covenant with a husband if you don’t first have one with God. Seek biblical wisdom, study the word, develop a life of prayer and be dedicated to living for God. This will strengthen the marriage covenant when God allows you to walk into that season. A three-cord strand is not easily broken (Ecclesiastes 4:12)

I’m not sure what three-cord strands the OP has encountered, but I’m sure that a three-cord strand with one being invisible is just as strong as a two-cord strand, probably because it’s the same thin. 

2. Master the art of fidelity and trust. No man wants a woman that cannot be faithful nor one that turns her neck at every fine man that she sees. Learn to 100% committed prior to a serious courtship. Be happy with what God has blessed you with and cultivate your relationship. It is also important to be a woman of your word. If you promise to do something, be sure to do it!

See, I can get fidelity. I may not be able to understand monogamy, but if that’s what makes you happy, go for it. But “no man wants a woman… that turns her neck at every fine man she sees”? What? Are you suddenly not allowed to be heterosexual anymore after marriage? Honestly, I don’t think I’ll ever understand straights, or maybe this is just a religious thing.

3. Develop the ability to take care of a home. Ladies, in order to be a great partner in marriage, we must bring the ability to emotionally and physically take care of the house. Learn to set a atmosphere of peace and love. Avoid quarrels when possible. Practice gentleness with others that cross your path.

Emotionally take care of a house? Is that physically possible? And what does avoiding quarrels have to do with that? And I’m not even touching on how being a domestic slave is a woman’s qualifier for hetero marriage.

4. Learn how to cook! My mother once told me that a woman that cannot cook is not cute! We know that men like to eat. Let’s be serious here. We all need to eat to live. Eating out all of the time can become expensive and who doesn’t love a home-cooked meal from time to time. If you cannot do anything beyond boil water, invest in a cookbook. Try one new meal a week and you will quickly improve your cooking skills.

Oh, my stars. Aren’t religious people something? I love how men will starve if they don’t have a woman to feed them. If they’re so incapacitated, you’d think that they shouldn’t be trusted with any decisions on their own, least of all holding a career or being a dictator of a family.

5. Make smart financial decisions. If you desire to marry a man that provides and makes the best decisions for his family, you need to do the same. Smart men don’t want to marry a woman that spends way more than she saves. Work on your budget and be sure to have an emergency fund that covers 3-6 months on expenses along with retirement savings. Preparing for tomorrow is important. The ability to manage money is important in marriage.

I’d say this makes sense, but I know how religious straight people think, and I know this means “don’t shop a bunch you silly wimmen.”

6. Be complete as one. Be comfortable with not having a man in this season. Learn to be happy on your own. Find joy in those things that make you happy. Love what you have and don’t covet what others have. Spend time in your singleness doing the things that you love to do. Travel, find hobbies and do the things that married women tell you that you won’t have time to do when you get married and then become a mother.

I thought the whole point of this list was how single women are worthless because they’re not under the beck and call of a man?

7. Learn the art of compromise. Marriage will be about give and take. While you are single, learn that you don’t always have to be right and accept that most things will not always happen your way. Be willing to sacrifice what you want for the benefit and happiness of others. Wives have to compromise many things. The earlier we learn to compromise, the better off we will be in marriage.

By “compromise,” OP means “give up all individuality and choice.” Religious people lingo. Gotta be careful with these folks.

8. Be committed to pursuing your dreams and supporting others. It is important to have your own goals and motivations prior to becoming one with your future husbands. The single season is a great opportunity to begin building your career, business or working towards other goals. Learn how to support family and friends in their endeavors as well. When you become a wife, you will have to support your husband’s dreams, possibly at the expense of yours. You must me ok with this level of sacrifice and compromise prior to committing to marriage.

Yikes. “Build up a career so you can give it up for a pointless vocation.” Sounds legit.

9. Know what submission is and be ready to walk in it. Many people shy way from this discussion. Submission is not equivalent to obedience. Submission is yielding in love. Study God’s design for marriage and understand the role of a wife. In your singleness, God is your husband. Submit yourself to Him. Trust His plan and timing for your life. Seek His guidance in all that you do. Practicing submission now will be the driving force to it being second nature to you once you become a wife.

Submission is fine, just have a safe word. 

10. Be holy and feminine in your conduct. Always carry yourself as a classy woman who walks with confidence. Men want a woman they are proud to take home to their families. They want a woman with high self-esteem, one who walks gracefully, respects herself and others around her.

Christ on a cracker, that’s pretty depressing.

With this list, I’m sure that many single women are re-thinking the whole man marriage thing. Straight marriage sounds like it sucks. I don’t get why hetero marriage is so sacred, it looks more like a sham and a fallacy than anything. 

You have got to be pretty damn brainwashed to accept this as something you’d want in your life. I guess that’s what religion is for though.

deannar0se:

- Bro. Bobby Killman

Let me fix that for you:

“When you dress in a manner that I find personally attractive, you deserve to be treated like shit by hypothetical men who have no ability to personally connect with humans. And when they get tired of acting out the misogyny I’m projecting onto them, they start looking elsewhere, which doesn’t really make sense but I’ll say it because it might make women feel guilty, disgusting, and paranoid. Guys that only show you attention because of what they can see don’t truly exist in reality, nor can I explain why you give a shit, but they won’t stay because their eyes wander to other things also getting their attention. In short, you’re a horrible slut and you’ll only attract the scum of humanity because you’re such a gross, disgusting slut. It’s your fault I choose to get sexually aroused, and whatever. Slut.”

- Some creepy Christian straight man who has no business policing women’s appearances

Not really much of a series, so much for that.

One on the atheist man: 35 notes

One on the atheist woman: 4 notes

I’m just sayin’

~Made this rebloggable cuz~

Anonymous asked:

WTF is up with that random “anti-hijab” at the end there?? Oh, yes, ABOUT ME: anti-Christian, anti-Muslim, anti-Judaism, ANTI-HIJAB??? WTF????????????? that insertion seems so ridiculous and random? and might I add, do you hate other Muslim headcoverings? and whY????

I am not referring to the common manifestation of the hijab, but rather the concept of hijab.

See this:

Each one of those head coverings is different. Yet they are all hijab. 

But the hijab doesn’t just cover head coverings.

Acc. to Wikipedia, the goddess of knowledge:

According to Islamic scholarship, hijab is given the wider meaning of modesty, privacy, and morality; the words for a headscarf or veil used in the Qur’an are khimār (خمار) and jilbaab (جلباب), not hijab. Still another definition is metaphysical, where al-hijab refers to “the veil which separates man or the world from God.”

So hijab isn’t just a head covering, but more of a way of life. Specifically, the kind of hijab used depends on what the culture conceives as being the awrah (عورة), or the parts of the body that need to be concealed (esp during prayer).

Since the search function on tumblr is fucked, I can’t give you specific examples, but hijab almost always includes directions as to the rest of their clothing.

Southern Muslimas (it amuses me greatly to think of the confusion of Islamophobes encountering a Muslima with a Southern drawl), at least from what I’ve seen, often Al-Amira with tight pants made of thin fabric or plain ol’ jeans, plus a long-sleeve shirt with something loose and drapey over it.

But is that hijab?

I’ve seen posts on here- so sorry for the lack of examples- that dictate some pretty severe and idiotic rules for hijab. Such things include:

• No makeup
• No bright colors
• No pants
• No sleeves (yeah, that one)
• No jewelry

Now, here are a few technical issues I have with the concept of hijab:

• I am pro-sexuality. Hijab is anti-sexuality.
• I support the natural human body, and I am against body-shaming. Hijab is against the human body in its natural form. 

But, as always, these are the manifest functions of hijab. How about the latent functions?

• Hijab is never applied to men and women equally. This is injustice.
• Hijab is sometimes applied to women to the point that impedes their function. EG: Wearing a full, black-colored outfit in a hot, humid climate; the burqini; wearing a niqab/burqa (face concealment); etc. 
• Hijab is often exploited to give men a great excuse for sexual immorality or even crime. Examples: blaming rape victims for not being hijab enough; threatening a woman with responsibility for male sin for not being hijab enough, etc.

And others that aren’t coming to mind atm. 

But the BIGGEST issue I have is the long-standing cultural change as a result of the enforcement of hijab. 

Some reasonably possible scenarios could include:

• A changing perception of men regarding women who follow hijab. There’s the possibility of them holding the more extreme hijabi up to higher respect and honor than those who hold the less rigorous versions. Slut-shaming.
• Another changing perception of men regarding women who hold less severe versions of the hijab. There’s the probable possibility of slut-shaming- that is, women who wear less severe versions of the hijab will be regarded by men as being less pious, possibly more promiscuous, possibly intentionally trying to force men into sin. 
• This, in turn, leads to victim-blaming: a woman gets sexually harassed/etc, and she was wearing the shayla and not the al-amira? Why was she doing that? Was that intentional seduction? Was she trying to have that happen to her? When a man commits an anti-woman crime, was it really his fault?
• What about perceptions of “Western women”? I know I don’t have to say much on this, as it’s seen quite a bit. Ask for clarification.
• And, of course, the female counterparts! A woman who wears a less rigorous version of the hijab may feel like she does not deserve respect. A woman may feel as if she must be as hijab as possible in order to rightfully deserve respect, and that if she doesn’t, she is dirty, etc. And when something happens to her, will she blame herself for not being hijab enough? Or when something happens to a friend, will she blame her?

Now, those are all speculations on changing cultural effects. If you’d like me to clarify those concepts, just ask, but it’s too tangential for here. 

Finally! Last, but not least. 

Modesty is an illogical and misogynistic concept.

This goes for ALL religions. Catholic mantillas. German baptist head coverings. Nun veils. All of em. But, for the sake of argument, let’s stress modesty as it manifests in Islam.

Let’s do this!

I. Modesty is illogical.

What is modesty? Let’s ask the dictionary, obviously. [This will be entered as soon as my dictionary installs]

Huh. Wow. So let’s go a wee bit further back into religion.

A. Objectivity of truth

One thing an established religion requires is that truth be objective. When it comes to objectivity/subjectivity, you can only have one or the other: Truth is always true (objectivity), or truth is not always true (subjectivity). Truth is true across all time (objectivity), or truth changes according to time (subjectivity). And- here’s the important one- truth is true in all cultures (objectivity) or truth is true according to cultures (subjectivity).

B. Organized religion requires objective truth.

It’s easy to figure this one out! Is Islam always true? Is Allah not still the one true god in the Americas as well as the Eastern hemisphere?  Is Mohammad not Allah’s prophet in 2012, as he was during his lifetime? Is the Qu’ran not still the book of revealed truth from Allah and Mohammad in Gentilly as it is in Mandeville? 

Islam is objective. It has to be.

C. What determines modesty?

Oh shit. Now here’s the meat of the tomato. 

We looked at the definition of modesty- the manifest function, if you will- but let’s look at the latent functions, the way it exists. 

Here I will give you several separate scenarios. Rate them on a scale of 1 - 10, where 5 is neutral, 1 is extremely conservative and 10 is extremely immodest.

The situations:

1. a) You see a woman wearing a bikini top and board shorts at a Mississippi beach in summer. What would your numbers be if:

• You were a nudist and think nudity is neutral?
• You think jeans and a t shirt is neutral?
• You think loose clothing and an Al-Amira is neutral?

1. b) You see a woman wearing a bikini top and board shorts at a lesbian bar. What would your numbers be if:

• You were a nudist and think nudity is neutral?
• You think jeans and a t shirt is neutral?
• You think loose clothing and an Al-Amira is neutral?

1. c) You see a woman wearing a bikini top and board shorts at a place of worship. What would your numbers be if:

• You were a nudist and think nudity is neutral?
• You think jeans and a t shirt is neutral?
• You think loose clothing and an Al-Amira is neutral?

We’re nowhere near finished.

2. a) You see a woman wearing jeans and a low-cut shirt at a Mississippi beach in summer. What would your numbers be if:

• You were a nudist and think nudity is neutral?
• You think jeans and a t shirt is neutral?
• You think loose clothing and an Al-Amira is neutral?

2. b) You see a woman wearing jeans and a low-cut shirt at a lesbian bar. What would your numbers be if:

• You were a nudist and think nudity is neutral?
• You think jeans and a t shirt is neutral?
• You think loose clothing and an Al-Amira is neutral?

2. c) You see a woman wearing jeans and a low-cut shirt at a place of worship. What would your numbers be if:

• You were a nudist and think nudity is neutral?
• You think jeans and a t shirt is neutral?
• You think loose clothing and an Al-Amira is neutral?

3. a) You see a woman wearing loose clothing and an Al-Amira at a Mississippi beach in summer. What would your numbers be if:

• You were a nudist and think nudity is neutral?
• You think jeans and a t shirt is neutral?
• You think loose clothing and an Al-Amira is neutral?

3. b) You see a woman wearing loose clothing and an Al-Amira at a lesbian bar. What would your numbers be if:

• You were a nudist and think nudity is neutral?
• You think jeans and a t shirt is neutral?
• You think loose clothing and an Al-Amira is neutral?

3. c) You see a woman wearing loose clothing and an Al-Amira at a place of worship. What would your numbers be if:

• You were a nudist and think nudity is neutral?
• You think jeans and a t shirt is neutral?
• You think loose clothing and an Al-Amira is neutral?

So what the living hell determines modesty?  If you’re a nudist and you see a woman wearing jeans and a low cut shirt at a beach, you’d think she’s being excessively modest. If you think jeans and a t shirt are neutral, if you see a woman wearing the same at a bar, you’d think she’s being modestly-neutral. If you think an Al-Amira and loose clothing are neutral, if you see a woman wearing the same at a bar, you’d think she’s being immodesty.  Welp welp welp.  In fact, let’s make it super simple. You have a nudist, an average American, and a pro-burqa extremist in a coffee shop. A woman can walk in wearing one outfit, and all three observers will have different opinions on their modesty. So it looks like modesty is not defined by the actions of the person attempting modesty.  That sounds awfully… subjective if modesty depends on another person’s disposition.  So.

If objectivity is required for something to be true, and modesty does not have objectivity, it can’t be true.

Viola. Modesty is illogical.

II. Modesty is misogynistic.

Personally, I define misogyny as giving women unequal treatment from men. You, or anyone, can fight that one out with me later.

In its application:

• For women, modesty is given more importance.
• For women, the requirements for modesty are more restricting.
• The cultural/religious repercussions for women are harsher.

This is misogyny.

Almost the end. 

I oppose misogyny and inequality. I oppose irrationality. 

I oppose the concept of hijab.

The end.

religiousconfessions:

“I am a trans Muslim. I think Muslims who say it is a sin don’t understand Allah. I don’t care how many surat you quote at me; my gender is between me and Allah only. To the people who say, “Be satisfied with the body Allah gave you,” I say this: Allah doesn’t make mistakes. If He intended me to be cis, He would have made me so. I thank Allah for making me transgender. Alhamdulillahi rabbil alameen (Praise be to Allah, Lord of the Worlds).” Submitted by once-and-future-bastard

Asked on the “Religion poisons everything” facebook page. 

Some responses attempted to take cultural factors into consideration.

Jo Child women are more susceptible to patriarchy traditionalism?? who knows

Fritz Toch Culture? As members of the english-speaking world, we are still products of an overwhelmingly misogynistic culture, where men are “supposed” to be the leaders, the idea generators. We need to kill off religion, and then we have more work to do…

Duncan Ferguson In some (if not all) religions it may have worse consequences to publicly leave your delusion.

Mona Albano It has been suggested in the past that women are more religious because they depend more on luck for the outcome of their lives, e.g. the real personality of whomever they marry. They are more rewarded for being conventional. 

Josh Robinson Oppression oppresses

Pythia St Anika Women tend to be taught to be pleasing and respectable in this culture which keeps us out of this type of rhetoric. Women also tend to stay in the closet longer than men too

Child Wild Just an observation, in our culture an atheist man can be in a relationship with a woman who follows a religion and it can work. An atheist woman in a relationship with a man who follows a religion will be put under a great deal of pressure to conform. A mother who does not profess a mainstream religion may find herself under negative scrutiny and avoided by other mothers.

Others went the more “women suck” or “delicate flower” route.

Frank Bologna Atheism in this modern culture is generally more rebellious and thus more male.

It is also a more logical position revoid of emotional compromise so would be a more common trait in males.

Atheism It is even lower on our page (24% females) - maybe because we all swear so much…

John Mark Because even an intelligent woman thinks with her heart more than her brain.

Erik Paterson Sausage fest.

That should totally not sound nearly as appealing as it does. Not the euphemism. An actual festival of sausages, it’s the euphemism that makes it sort of awkward.

Anyways, blokes are always right and that makes them argumentative bastards, that’s probably why they congregate on pages like this.

Trevor Sterling women don’t think, they just ruin mens’ lives. I’m actually shocked there are as many women on this page as there is :p 

Some preferred to channel their inner comedic genius. 

Elysa Hargesheimer The women are not on atheism pages due to the constant need for sandwiches to be made?

Merry Prankster Cause bitches love fairytales and are afraid of the dark?

Only one single poster offered a reasonable explanation.

Matthew Beck In my experience, women who post in discussion groups tend to experience more sexual harassment from male members, either on the page or in private messages. I’m guessing that this discourages some women from joining or remaining in the groups.

Atheists, if there aren’t many women in your communities, it’s not because they are fragile souls or because they’re too busy being oppressed by priests to join in. It’s probably… your fault. 

From the Religious-Free Woman facebook group.

This has not been edited for content in any way

Eyes Closed, No Peeking

Dedicated to the governor of Pennsylvania, who suggested that women upset at being forced to have an unnecessary internal ultrasound should ‘close their eyes’, and to the Georgia legislator who wants to outlaw abortion even for a woman carrying a dead fetus because ‘cows and pigs do it all the time’ , and to the gentleman in Wisconsin who wants to outlaw divorce and says that women who are abused by their husbands should just ‘remember th good times’, and… and…. and…. 

“Just close your eyes” he said.

Close your eyes and maybe it won’t hurt so much.

Maybe you can make the shame go away if you don’t have to look at it

don’t have to meet the eyes of the doctor who is ready to violate you, who is no longer allowed to address your pain and need.

Close your eyes and deal with it because from this point on,

health care for you is nothing more than a power play, the political blood sport of men, drenched in your own desperate blood.

Close your eyes, ladies, and think of Jesus who wants you to know that you are a sinner- and a slut for having dreams beyond the ones given to you by your pastor, your employer, and your governor.

See, they are worried that you might get an abortion mistakenly

thinking it’s a treatment for the flu or something

eager to brand you a wanton for having sex at all, a Jezebel for enjoying pleasure without consequence…the way that they get to.

Close your eyes and pretend that you are still a person with the right to make your own, most intimate decisions about your future,

Close your eyes and remember when planning your own family

wasn’t considered dirty, when owning your body was still your birthright and the right to give birth also included the right not to.

Close your eyes and forget that you are supposed to be a mindless object of desire, to be salivated over and then dismissed, used by men to sell beer and shoes and laundry detergent, expected to exist only for their sexual pleasure, reviled for feeling it yourself, condemned for being what they so determinedly make you: a sexual being.

So come here, little girl, here’s a push-up bra, stilettos and

a chastity belt.

Learn now that sex is something for a man to do to a woman, not actually with her.

Understand that you must grow up to be either a slut, a dyke or a mother…and a mother, and a mother.

Close your eyes, girls, and enjoy your patent leather Mary Janes and princess dreams that don’t yet end in blood and probes

and congressmen playing doctor behind the statehouse, insisting that the princess carry even death in her womb, all in the name of life.

Close your eyes and think of your grandmothers, and of their grandmothers owned by their fathers, traded to their husbands, needing permission to go to college.

Think of the days when the few lady-like jobs that existed were only for those un-natural old maids unable to join the ranks of the real women doing a woman’s real job of having babies.

Think of not even being allowed to learn or to help support yourself and your family

of depending on a man to feed and clothe you and your children, your own love and need to protect them a chain and an anchor that keeps you in the harbor of even a loveless, abusive marriage, your yards and yards of beautiful sail forever stowed below decks, because the open seas of life is no place for a woman.

Close your eyes, ladies, and think of England, and of Iran and Afghanistan where women are chained for their own good, beaten for showing their faces, stoned for going to school, sewn shut between babies, robbed of the ability to feel passion, used for a man’s desire but allowed none of their own, receptacles, incubators, cooks and maids.

So close your eyes, and shut your mouths, and be thankful that you live in such an enlightened. modern land.

By Tracy Lynne Stout Meisky

paganismoetattoo:

Femen in Paris

créditos de imagens: Folha

Femen is always pulling some shit. You all gather your own opinions about the religious statements here. 

I’ll tell you.

Larry: do you have a pic? i live in _____, and would like to exchange pics.

Me: are you a woman? this was posted in w4w

Larry: i am a male, and would love to get together with you. Maybe just oral? any suggestions.

Me: if you’re not a woman, i’m not interested

Does any of this disturb you in the least?

Dave: I know I am pretty much everything you are not looking for but for some stupid reason I thought why not try anyway. 32/SWM/_____/5’9 185 short blondish brown hair and blue eyes.

I am just looking for a woman that wants to have her pussy licked. I love to kiss, lick, suck and nibble every inch of a woman’s body.

If you haven’t had any luck finding what you are looking for maybe give me a try. The worst thing that could happen would be you cumming and then you go home. I won’t hold my breath though, I know you are looking for a woman and not a guy.

-Dave

Me: w4w = woman for woman

you’re not a woman

hit me up when you are

thanks

My responses get a bit more dickish, but then again, I’m just trolling. 

Regardless, isn’t this just a bit disturbing?

Robert: pic?

Me: are you a woman named robert or do you lack basic reading comprehension

Robert: lol, using hubby’s email [SOUNDS LEGIT]…. here i can read… like me clit [pic]

[continued with nonsense]

Just maybe a bit disturbing. 

Sid: Hi There, I like you Ads on craigslits, Nice and cute , Welcome to _____ would you like to hit me up

5 9’, 170 lb,

looking forward

[pic]

Me: are you in drag

Sid: lol you could say that

Me: because you’re kind of convincing and that’s crossing the line into unattractive

Because, I mean… surely women soliciting for women would be a sure way to rid oneself of the man plague? 

Darrol: how about a couple? 

Darrol and Diane

Me: a couple of women? sure

Darrol: no one each

Darrol and Diane

Me: one each of what

Right?

Does this not disturb anyone else?

Darrel: Looking for another female to join me and my girl for a 3some let me know if your interested or not thanks :)

Me: are you also a woman

Darrel: No it’s male and female

Me: I posted in w4w not w4wm

Now, keep in mind I posted this Craigslist ad about ONE HOUR AGO.

I’ve gotten one woman answer to me. 

Okay, now, despite my doing this for troll purposes, yall tell me how straight men aren’t creepy. Go ahead, do it.

And if you’re agnostic on this position, post yourselves a test post in a craigslist w4w and see what happens. 

I rest my case. 

Now, I’ve seen a lot of folks speak out as queer voices. 

Pansexual, bisexual, etc. folks. 

Who, fundamentally, I have no issue with. 

Here’s the problem I have: You have gender-conforming people in straight/hetero-typical relationships commenting on forms of bigotry and discrimination that occur against gender-nonconforming people and those in homosexual or atypical relationships.

Okay?

So, if you’re a bisexual femme cis woman in a mono relationship with a gender-conforming cis man, yes, you’re still bisexual, and yes, you’re still queer. 

If you’re a pansexual gender-conforming cis man in a mono relationship with a femme cis woman, yes, you’re still pansexual, and yes, you’re still queer.

But.

You have straight privilege, and you have gender privilege. 

The systems that you think you’re being discriminated against by are actually benefiting you. 

And- it’s just that-

Honestly I’m tired of seeing all these bisexual or pansexual labeled cis people who are living out very straight, very cis lives, who then decide that their voices of oppression and struggle merit equal hearing as those who do not have the privilege of living straight cis lives. 

Now, the lesbian community in particular has always turned away bisexuals. Which I do not support. 

But I do understand them. 

I understand that a gender-conforming woman who has never been in a romantic/sexual relationship with a woman nor has any serious interest in such, and her who life has enjoyed straight privilege will be rejected by a community that takes such things more seriously.

When I get extraordinarily bored, I like to troll w4w sections on craigslist. 

Most of it is something like: “bi-curious femme seeking bi-curious femme. husband will know but won’t be involved/will watch but won’t participate.” And from the testimonies of my lesbian friends, w4w craigslist encounters usually end up being badgered constantly with emails from hetero couples looking for a way to enhance men’s boners. Yes, I can understand the lesbian community’s wariness of bisexual women.

Now, I’m not saying that the non-absolute queer folks on tumblr are on the same level as these people. And I’m not saying that a bisexual or pansexual person or a gender-conforming person doesn’t have any legitimate say in discussions of oppression.

But it just rubs me the wrong way when someone who has all the straight and cis privilege in the world speaks over those who don’t, especially when those privileged people try to speak loudly about all the oppression they encounter.

And yes, I do have a problem with women who claim bisexual but refuse legit relationships with women, and men who claim straight but only permit discreet sexual encounters with other men, and people of all genders who claim queer as an identity and go running out with more gender-conformance than a pop music video. 

There is my rambling statement for the day. Enjoy. Or don’t.